tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post2462300042822601851..comments2024-03-20T02:49:17.606-07:00Comments on Between Fact and Fiction: Impressionable MindsNatalie Whipplehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09978251567306345129noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-56880477432882821142010-06-20T07:12:34.571-07:002010-06-20T07:12:34.571-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.prashanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04583385332262124749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-48790556277832846682010-06-13T06:58:12.813-07:002010-06-13T06:58:12.813-07:00You're thinking like you've got a post-apo...You're thinking like you've got a post-apoc book in the works. Welcome to the Club of Scary Predictors. The future is FUN.Sara Raaschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01196505323463444186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-87679087616752230382010-06-13T05:13:12.288-07:002010-06-13T05:13:12.288-07:00I agree, the power of commercials and the media in...I agree, the power of commercials and the media in general can be completly underestimated, its hard to know which ideas are our own and which have been fabricated. Limiting the advertising you children see is a good idea, when they get a little older it might be an idea to let them see them and encourage them to question them? I did this with my oldest, she was made aware that commercials are blatent lies to make you buy things. I think it worked to some extent in that she often laughs, esp at the teenagers advertising anti-wrinkle creams!Words A Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04423263654771820182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-7584825033139446282010-06-12T19:58:30.418-07:002010-06-12T19:58:30.418-07:00No opinion is yours. We've all been manipulat...No opinion is yours. We've all been manipulated by the advertising industry, which is a fascinating industry. I remember watching Mad Men on AMC and a group of advertising execs were in a meeting. Someone blurted out the cliche "sex sells". Another exec responded, "says who?" That always stuck with me because we're lead to believe sex sells but that isn't true unless they make it so. We're so quick to agree with these ads that's what make them so fascinating.Chris Catledgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521317507087800400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-46996090328237887172010-06-12T08:58:56.675-07:002010-06-12T08:58:56.675-07:00Commercials are scary!
They've given my kids...Commercials are scary! <br /><br />They've given my kids and me a chance to discuss propaganda techniques and the like--and now it's great to hear one of them say something like, "They're totally saying that to me think it's like X. I bet it's not."<br /><br />Yay!Annette Lyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493583432919249814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-8047533021934191662010-06-12T08:22:37.753-07:002010-06-12T08:22:37.753-07:00Your post definitely gives me something to think a...Your post definitely gives me something to think about. I usually just skip over commercials, except for when I watch TV at the gym. Then it only gets difficult to ignore the commercials when advertisements for restaurants come on, because they always show these delicious meals in slow motion while I'm trying to exercise and be healthy.Neurotic Workaholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06775298184138766683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-58844562772087881902010-06-12T08:00:14.911-07:002010-06-12T08:00:14.911-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-87860929115693986452010-06-11T21:58:49.046-07:002010-06-11T21:58:49.046-07:00My older son does the same thing! Scary, isn't...My older son does the same thing! Scary, isn't it? Very thought provoking post. The power of suggestion/advertising is strong indeed.Sara B. Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14213313028658810705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-8655663456357987592010-06-11T21:06:45.364-07:002010-06-11T21:06:45.364-07:00I don't watch TV either, but I'm brainwash...I don't watch TV either, but I'm brainwashed everytime I go to the grocery store and look at food labels.Jessie Oliveroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232456334069794107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-31812627854249103522010-06-11T20:53:05.451-07:002010-06-11T20:53:05.451-07:00Not gonna lie, those stupid Wonder Hangers almost ...Not gonna lie, those stupid Wonder Hangers almost got me too. Then I Googled them and found out they're pretty much crap. Thank goodness for review sites! (Maybe you should teach Dino Boy about looking up reviews and ratings? Half kidding... :P)<br /><br />"The lines blur more than I want to admit, but it's interesting to think about."<br /><br />Definitely. And I think it's awesome that you want to apply this discussion to your own writing, particularly since you write for a younger audience (YA). <br /><br />That said, I think it's a balance. You have to tell your story. But you have to recognize that part of being a writer is having a readers, and readers will find meaning in your words. What can you live with and what can't you live with, in terms of their interpretations?Kristanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771013578685419826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-33460001590636241112010-06-11T18:07:03.201-07:002010-06-11T18:07:03.201-07:00That is sad and crazy! This is why TV and commerci...That is sad and crazy! This is why TV and commercials are evil, in general. Just get yourselves a DVR and you can get past all that.<br /><br />I suppose that doesn't really apply for little ones though, can't count on them skipping the ads if they're very young.<br /><br />Just make Nick take control and monitor their viewing 24/7.Matthew MacNishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-26549839530589780832010-06-11T16:31:16.153-07:002010-06-11T16:31:16.153-07:00I think this is so interesting because I remember ...I think this is so interesting because I remember those commercials when I was a kid and after badgering my mom to get me one or two things I'd seen a thousand times and having them break or not do what they were supposed to, I became convinced that all things in infomercial type ads where happy people go on about how fabulous some wonder product is were a waste of money and or straight up lies. I still carry that with me today. <br /><br />So I guess what I'm saying is that that kind of experience goes both ways, because I'm sure that some of those wonder products really do work, but I can't believe in any of them. <br /><br />Which really backs up your original statement that you just can't control what kind of effect you have. People will always interpret what you say however they want.<br /><br />Great post!Valerie Kemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795714434618357955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-40332097729419706872010-06-11T16:30:02.887-07:002010-06-11T16:30:02.887-07:00I think writers have a lot more power than they th...I think writers have a lot more power than they think they do. Words and images are powerful things. Everything we read/do/see affects us, changes us (even in a small way). I don't think there's really any getting away from that entirely. Though I do try to keep aware of how my opinions are changing and monitoring if that's what I really want and believe. But it's hard sometimes.<br /><br />We have a PVR and all the shows we watch are taped in advance. We fast-forward through ALL the commercials so I've effectively gotten away from their brainwashing.<br /><br />That's pretty scary about Dino Boy though.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12096764010151024050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-45493175680994342712010-06-11T15:45:19.314-07:002010-06-11T15:45:19.314-07:00Cassandrajade, I love that idea. So, Natalie... wh...Cassandrajade, I love that idea. So, Natalie... what would your ninja jingle sound like?Katrina L. Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871272394922775923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-86233367803351095762010-06-11T15:26:49.968-07:002010-06-11T15:26:49.968-07:00I never asked for anything I saw in a commercial b...I never asked for anything I saw in a commercial but I used to memorise add jingles as a kid. As I went shopping with mum I would sing each jingle as we selected the items from the shelf. <br />I think that it was made clear to me early on that just because the t.v. said something doesn't make it real and so I considered ads just another kind of fiction to be enjoyed. <br />As to the influence of writers, I don't think we have quite the lasting impact of short repetitive advertising. Maybe if our books had jingles they might but otherwise...<br />This was a very interesting post. Thanks for sharing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-59463487545928742282010-06-11T13:13:50.919-07:002010-06-11T13:13:50.919-07:00Katrina, third person media effect! Very interesti...Katrina, third person media effect! Very interesting! Mindfulness is definitely key.Natalie Whipplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09978251567306345129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-74041289027759393502010-06-11T13:10:41.765-07:002010-06-11T13:10:41.765-07:00Thank you for this post! It's so honest and sp...Thank you for this post! It's so honest and speaks to a problem I see as pervasive in our society. In college, I took a few communications classes where they discussed the effect of media on the masses. What really interested me was the effect on the individual: <b>third person media effect</b> - people recognize media affects other people, but don't notice the same thing in themselves.<br /><br />That really made me think about what I watched, read, even scanned on the freeway. Mindfulness is the only defense we have against this type of constant advertising. <br /><br />Although... I like being brainwashed about books, to be honest. Getting excited about a book based on a blurb or cool-o, neat-o book trailer = BEST FUN EVER.Katrina L. Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871272394922775923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-29774314623752661282010-06-11T12:41:14.136-07:002010-06-11T12:41:14.136-07:00i've got a little sister, and its always a pro...i've got a little sister, and its always a problem telling her no to whatever's on tv! but i think its true that a lot of the things we do are influenced by what the media tells us. we have to look beyond the products to see what our life is really like. its important to realize that just because someone tells us so does not mean its true. interesting post. my brain is buzzing!Meeroarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16584007050896567365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-40016705299705650162010-06-11T11:35:22.769-07:002010-06-11T11:35:22.769-07:00OMG - My kids go on and on about those EXACT SAME ...OMG - My kids go on and on about those EXACT SAME COMMERCIALS. I have learned to hate the pillow pet one, because as soon as it's on, my house is filled with the shouts of three children trying to tell me which pillow pet they want. *plugs ears*<br /><br />I'm not sure about the shoe thing. I'm not into shoes, but my mom is, and my oldest daughter is. *shrug*<br /><br />Anyway, great post, Natalie! :)Larissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874147599272424056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-5961758857929815522010-06-11T11:23:40.714-07:002010-06-11T11:23:40.714-07:00This is something I have been thinking about for y...This is something I have been thinking about for years. We really are implanted with thoughts and ideals from outside sources. I am with you on the PBS only channel in my house. I don't want the television teaching my child. That's my job. And I am always mindful of what I put into my books. Granted, there is a LITTLE romance, but nothing over the top, just enough =). And definitely no language issues there.Kathryn Packer Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16506942804607936833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-10011545153793240702010-06-11T11:20:15.883-07:002010-06-11T11:20:15.883-07:00"So I read this post, left it, and then found..."So I read this post, left it, and then found it so intriguing that I had to come back and comment."<br /><br />Me, too!<br /><br />No time, but this is a great post, Natalie.Stephanie Perkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01327218987542530574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-50366484908739736162010-06-11T11:17:34.182-07:002010-06-11T11:17:34.182-07:00Hehe, Claire, it's true. And as a Mormon, I th...Hehe, Claire, it's true. And as a Mormon, I think Twilight's about a girl's very naive journey through first love.Natalie Whipplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09978251567306345129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-58664597315222997652010-06-11T11:15:31.342-07:002010-06-11T11:15:31.342-07:00Just last week we (my neighbours and I) got into t...Just last week we (my neighbours and I) got into theorising about author responsibility. And then I blogged about it. It's a really thin line. Because you can try your best to tell a story, and people can still distort it. <br /><br />For example, my social worker neighbour thinks Twilight promotes domestic violence. I think it's just a book where a happy Mormon wife promotes the qualities she reveres in a husband.Claire Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354840714847021685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-72593820419114499722010-06-11T11:09:32.239-07:002010-06-11T11:09:32.239-07:00Interesting indeed. Sometimes I'm utterly supr...Interesting indeed. Sometimes I'm utterly suprised at some of the horrible (and quite suggestive) commercials put on network TV as early as 8 PM. When I have kids, I'll have to be very careful on letting them watch. Perhaps I'll just have them watch the kid-friendly networks. Assuming they're still that way when I do have kids...<br /><br />I also wonder if these commercials put some sort of subliminal message in them? Maybe I'm reading too many dystopian novels :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774363178370829558.post-45657028349011993362010-06-11T10:54:10.981-07:002010-06-11T10:54:10.981-07:00Shelli, that's sounds slightly evil, but I thi...Shelli, that's sounds slightly evil, but I think I'm in:)<br /><br />Michelle, it's interesting what each kids loves! I never wanted Ninja Girl to be into the pink/shiny stuff, but well, she is. Who am I to stop her? <br /><br />Feliza, I use Macs cuz they're pretty. There, I said it:)<br /><br />Tiana, I don't think we can help putting our thoughts in a book, even when we're not trying. I'm not so sure that's a bad thing—I don't think my stuff would sound "real" without it.<br /><br />Bethany, I hope we can see! But sometimes even when I try to break it down, it's hard to know.<br /><br />Jordan, that's interesting about age 8! I'm interested to see how Dino Boy grows and learns in the next 4 years:)<br /><br />Mary, I know! I feel the same way sometimes. <br /><br />Suzie, that sounds like a really interesting book! I'll have to check it out sometime:)<br /><br />Garret, very interesting. I'd like to see more on that.Natalie Whipplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09978251567306345129noreply@blogger.com